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Stand up notes

2024-11-25 standup notes.md

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-Attendees: Gheorghe, Richard, Valentin, Ronny, Nicolas, Björn
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-Not attending: Koen & Robert (travelling), Kevin (day off)
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-* Bjorn set up some data structures in the internal Wiki
-* Valentin:
-	* Met Eli from Thymis & Johannes from Clan. Discussed the three system architectures with them.
-	* NixOps took some time for them to make it click. Now I know a bit better what we can learn from them, and if and on what we can collaborate. Overlap might be rather small with those projects.
-	* We need to think about how to convey the power of NixOps in such a way that people understand this properly -- it's at a very high level of abstraction (essentially an IO monad for the Nix language), while people typically think in terms of their concrete use cases.
-    * That gap requires some storytelling and didactic techniques to bridge.
-	* Will work on a report & publish it on the website to communicate
-	* Valentin & Bjorn will have a chat tomorrow after standup
-* Gheorghe:
-	* Shared the UML info last Friday
-	* Will work on the financials & get the numbers
-	* Diagram code wants to add a PR
-	* Update the numbers
-* Nicolas:
-	* Wiki e-mail: we need to have a secrets management solution.
-	* No test for PeerTube yet. So I started working on it. Probably finished today
-* Ronny:
-	* Will have a look at Gheorghe's PR.
-* Richard:
-	* Will ask Kevin about his work & check if I can help out
-	* Looking for stuff to work on
-
-* Nicholas opened up the wiki registration so each team member can create their own account today.
-* Nicholas: Make Forgejo send out notifications (Nicholas will do this).

architecture-docs/2025-03-05 design meeting.md

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+# fediversity design meeting 2025-03-12
+
+present: slik (thijs, tiemon) + procolix (lois, kevin, kiara)
+
+- thijs: what is the project called and who does what?
+- thijs: how do you see front-end dev for this?
+- kiara: we don't need you to do an implementation using some front-end framework - just the design will do.
+- thijs: what will be the concrete deliverable then for the demo?
+- kiara: if for fediforum we do not have the design implemented yet that is acceptable.
+- thijs: maybe we will make it in time.
+- tiemon: sounds ambitious.
+- thijs: should we deliver code or would an interactive design do?
+- kiara: an interactive design will do.
+- kiara: could this handle animations too?
+- tiemon: yes.
+- thijs: could you explain some terminology here like fediverse, protagio, providers, panel?
+- kevin: *explains*
+- thijs: which applications will you do, and how do these get added?
+- kiara: mastodon, pixelfed and peertube at least.
+- kevin: *explains about fediversity sub-grants*
+- thijs: who will select what applications get added then?
+- kiara: formally the Open Internet Discourse Foundation.
+- thijs: are there set criteria for this? are these political decisions?
+- kiara: fediversity is open-source, tho as maintainers we will eventually need to make decisions take into account our capacity given the maintenance work involved.
+- thijs: how might hosts, users, workspaces and accounts relate?
+- kiara: we will offer SSO across applications.
+- thijs: what if people say use this from both professional as well as other roles? can they then have workspaces representing their accounts at different hosts?
+- kiara: i envision the web client as agnostic to orchestration capabilities, so a client application logged in to accounts at different hosts thru e.g. workspaces could technically be possible, tho i would not see this as significantly affecting our design currently.
+- thijs: how about a host admin panel to e.g. restrict offered applications? or for hosts' accountants?
+- kiara: hosts consist of sysadmins, so a config file may currently suffice for them as a user interface.
+- kevin: hosts also already have their own client-facing front-ends.
+- thijs: cli for now, so for the design focus on the operator panel? ok.
+- thijs: *asking about terminology*
+- *kevin + kiara explain*
+- thijs: do you want to offer a federated UX?
+- kevin: the deployed applications federate already.
+- thijs: applications tend to offer support buttons. who is in charge of offering this support, operators, hosts or you?
+- kiara: the operator, afaik.
+- kevin: we might direct users to the application manuals.
+- thijs: will fedipanel come with a knowledge base aimed at the operators?
+- kiara: we could link to a static one deployed from our end.
+- kevin: probably better to include this in the panel deployment.
+- thijs: sure, let me know.
+- thijs: we can show what we had so far in design program figma.
+- tiemon: you can navigate and interact with the designs, and they can generate html as well.
+- thijs: we like to work with job stories, so not just user stories like 'as a ...' but also including 'so that ...'.
+- kiara: great, so do we.
+- thijs: we can show some UIs we like for reference.
+- thijs: you won't offer file management from the panel, right?
+- kevin: correct.
+- kiara: fyi our deployment is somewhat big-bang still, rather than say configure mastodon -> deploy -> configure pixelfed -> deploy - we can not yet enqueue such syncs.
+- thijs: where can we find your application?
+- kevin: the code is at <https://git.fediversity.eu>, but we also have a recent demo video.
+- tiemon: we saw that one, yeah.
+- thijs: here is a wireframe so we can align on the chrome (= UI parts that are always there).
+- kiara: we do not yet have workspaces, but multiple deployments per user could become an option.
+- thijs: how about an admin interface to manage users?
+- kiara: we will have to go thru hosts' SSO because of billing.
+- kevin: yes this will go thru LDAP.
+- thijs: how about showing stats about e.g. numbers of mastodon users?
+- kiara: applications should already handle stuff specific to them, so we don't plan to do this.
+- thijs: how about application settings (generic vs application-specific)?
+- kiara: generic ones will apply to say configure VM resources or sub-domains, tho otherwise most should be application-specific.
+- thijs: no auto-scaling?
+- kiara: not for now.
+- thijs: how about a billing interface?
+- kevin: hosts would use their existing ones.
+- tiemon: how is pricing determined then?
+- kiara: hosts may set this based on the usage info we will provide.
+- thijs:
+  - font: manrope?
+    - kiara: looks pretty.
+  - icon sets, selected by open-source / pretty / ...:
+    - [iconoir](https://iconoir.com/)?
+    - [phosphor](https://phosphoricons.com/)?
+      - kevin+lois+kiara: this one looks prettier.

meeting-notes/2025-03-04 standup notes.md

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+**​Standup:** 2025-03-04 @09:30    
+**Present:** Bjorn, George, Ronny, Kevin, Lois, Valentin, Kiara, Robert  
+**Absent:** Nicholas (known), Hans (known), Koen (known)   ​
+
+* Bjorn
+	* Yesterday: no Fediversity. 
+	* Today: Catch up
+* Ronny 
+	* Yesterday no Fediversity
+	* no blockers no updates
+* Gheorghe
+	* No blockers
+	* Yesterday: Internal specific PM activities
+	* Today: Internal specific PM activities
+* Eric
+	* No blockers
+	* No updates
+* Kiara
+	* Yesterday: Form PR. Unblock front & backend so triggering with NixOps will work.
+	* Today: continue with this
+* Loïs
+	* No blockers
+	* No updates
+	*  will continue work with Kevin and Kiara on the django
+* Kevin
+	* No updates 
+	* will continue work with lois and kiara on the django
+* Valentin
+	* Clarified things we need from NixOps4 for the MVP and mid/long term with Robert and Kiara
+		* Summary: a bit of JSON logging for now, but eventually we'll serve OpenTelemetry in the Panel for capturing fine-grained progress indication
+		* Hacked out a sketch for managing versioned configuration schemas
+		* Code reviews
+* Robert
+	* Worked on OpenTelemetry logging
+	* No blockers

meeting-notes/2025-03-05 standup notes.md

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+**Standup:** 2025-03-05 @09:30  
+**Present:** Bjorn, Eric, Gheorghe, Koen, Lois, Valentin, Kevin  
+**Absent:** Nicholas (known), Hans (known), Ronny (known), Kiara (Nix gathering)  
+
+* Bjorn ​​
+	* Yesterday: other obligations :(
+	* Today: 
+	* Q: How is the work on deliverable 3 going? Demo on Monday 10th... 
+* Eric
+	* No blockers, no updates
+* Gheorghe
+	* No blockers
+	* Testerday: Internal PM activities
+	* Today: Internal PM activities
+* Loïs
+	* Looked at Kiara's feedback for fedipanel
+	* No blockers
+* Koen
+	* Spoke with Thijs and Timo and Kiara
+	* I would like a general 'how to check an application' before sending it to NixPkgs discussion (not now).
+	* Remy (EU thing)
+* Valentin
+	* Pingponged code with Kiara yesterday, should merge basic handling versioned configurations today
+	* Available for consultation and code review
+* Kevin
+	* worked on the django yesterday resolving some comments from valentin in our pr 
+	* schedule for today is pretty full so probaly wont get much done for fediverse
+* Robert
+	* No updates

meeting-notes/2025-03-06 standup notes.md

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+​**Standup:** 2025-03-06 @09:30  
+**Present:** Bjorn, Eric, Gheorghe, Koen, Lois, Ronny, Valentin  
+**Absent:** Nicholas (known), Hans (known), Kiara (known)  
+
+* Gheorghe
+	* No blockers
+	* Yesterday: Internal PM activities + starting the central document for the Tweag back-end Nix creation.
+	* Today: Internal PM activities + continuing the central document for the Tweag back-end Nix creation.
+* Koen
+	* no blockers
+	* no updates
+* Valentin
+	* Discussed steps for demo preparation with Bjorn, Kevin, Lois
+	* Continued tying up the data models in the backend
+	* Reviewed the deliverables document Gheorghe prepared
+	* Reviewed Robert's "modular services" PR 
+		* https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/372170/
+* Bjorn
+	* Yesterday: spoke with Ronny, Valentin & with Kevin & Lois about the demo
+	* Today: will speak with Koen. 
+		* TODO: will remove the old board 
+* Loïs
+	* Blockers: Needing a review on pr 141
+	* Worked on MVP 2 preperation
+	* Worked with Valentin and Kevin on versioned configurations
+	* Today: Prepare further for demo 2
+* Eric
+	* no blockers
+	* available
+* Kevin
+	* blocked on needing a review on the pr 141
+	* Yesterday, met with loïs and Valentin to look at versioned configurations
+	* also had a meeting with loïs, valentin and Bjorn for the mvp 2 next tuesday
+    * This morning had a discusion with Loïs to prepare for the next demo
+* Ronny
+	* Had a chat with Bjorn about structure
+	* Preparing the partnermeeting on Friday

meeting-notes/2025-03-07 standup notes.md

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+**Standup:** 2025-03-07 @09:30  
+**Present:** Bjorn, Gheorghe  
+
+
+* Gheorghe
+	* No blockers.
+	* Yesterday: Internal project meetings and actions. Meet Erik and discussed more details about the documentation.
+	* Today: Internal project meetings and actions.
+* Bjorn
+	* Yesterday: 
+		* chat with Koen 
+		* cleanup Meta repo
+	* Today: 
+		* partner status meetup 
+		* add daily standup notes to repo

meeting-notes/2025-03-10 standup notes.md

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+**Standup:** 2025-03-10 @09:30  
+**Present:** Björn, Hans, Gheorghe​, Ronny, Robert  
+**Absent:** Koen (known), Kevin (known) Lois (known), Valetin (known), Nicolas (known)    
+
+* Björn
+	* Friday: 
+		* Partners meeting
+		* Standup  (no more on Friday)
+	* Today
+		* Chat with Kiara?
+		* Mail partners 
+* Gheorghe
+	* No blockers
+	* Friday: Internal PM activities
+	* Today: Internal PM activities
+* Hans (welcome back!) 
+	* planning to work on other projects than Fediversity
+* Robert
+	* Did some prep work for improving flakes integration
+	* Will not attend most standups until 27th (see wiki)
+	* Will be available at Matrix for questions 
+* Ronny
+	* No blockers
+	* No updates
+	* Need to reschedule partnermeeting
+	* Looking forward to demo tomorrow

meeting-notes/2025-03-11 standup notes.md

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+**Standup:** 2025-03-11 @09:30    
+**Present:** Bjorn, Kevin, Koen, Kiara, Gheorghe, Lois, Eric, Ronny  
+**Absent:** Hans (known), Valentin(known), Nicolas(known)   
+
+* Bjorn
+	* Yesterday: partners mail 
+	* Today: 
+		* Demo
+		* Going through planning
+		* Chat with Kiara
+* Koen
+	* fighting windmills (nix and debian). Start with learning the app on the OS it supports, than look at things like Nix. 
+* Kevin
+	* no updates:
+	* today: doing the demo with lois en kiara
+* Kiara
+	* Past days: Planet Nix
+	* Today: continue triggering orchestration from panel, get back up to speed, maybe discuss roadmap
+* Gheorghe
+	* No blockers
+	* Yesterday: Internal PM activities
+	* Today: Internal PM activities
+* Loïs
+	* Today: Demo 2, discuss whats next
+	* Past days: prepared for demo 2
+* Eric
+	* No blockers, available
+* Ronny
+	* No blockers
+	* Looking forward to demo
+* Robert 
+	* no updates and now traveling listening in but noisy environment 

meeting-notes/2025-03-12 standup notes.md

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+Standup: 2025-03-12 @09:30
+Present: Björn, Kiara, Eric, Kevin, Lois
+Absent: Koen (known)​, Gheorghe(known), Nicolas(known), Robert(known), Valentin(known), Ronny(known)
+
+Updates:
+* Kiara:
+	* Yesterday: paired on nixops from django with Lois
+	* Today: ^
+* Bjorn
+	* Yesterday: Demo & meetings
+	* Today: going through work packages / deliverables & other obligations
+* Eric
+	* available
+* Loïs
+	* Yesterday: Demo 2, made a connection between panel and Nixops
+	* Continue working on the panel today
+* Kevin
+	* Yesterday: Demo 2 & after discussion 
+	* small talk a with koen about my availability