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+​deciding we are using k8s.
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+how do people integrate k8s and nix?
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+who is using k8s + nix, why, what are their experiences?
+
+what should be driving? is nixops4 running k8s? vice versa? are they both being managed by something else?
+
+should a Nix system for defining NixOS clusters treat k8s the way that NixOS treats systemd? i.e., not trying to reinvent the wheel but building a configuration layer on top that defines a common interface and allows interoperability between the differnet parts.
+
+https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Kubernetes
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+https://kubernetes.io/
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+https://discourse.nixos.org/t/kubernetes-container-runtime-interface-nix/35717
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+https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixidy-kubernetes-gitops-with-nix-and-argo-cd/48034
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+https://kubenix.org/
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+https://github.com/hall/kubenix/
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+https://github.com/hall
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+https://github.com/justinas/nixos-ha-kubernetes