diff --git a/meeting-notes/2025-03-31 demo rehearsel.md b/meeting-notes/2025-03-31 demo rehearsel.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..9dc33ad --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-notes/2025-03-31 demo rehearsel.md @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +**Demo rehearsel:** 2025-03-31 @10:00 +**Present:** Kiara, Koen, Ronny, Kevin, Gheorghe, Robert, Bjorn, Valentin, Nicolas, Hans +**Absent:** Eric (known) + +__Agenda__ +* Koen starts with presenting +* Kevin will present the demo + +__Presentation & Demo notes__ +* Financed by EC, not "being" from EC. +* I suggest to say Prototype and not Product for now. +* I thought we were going to use the coloured EU flag(@Ronnynote: Koen is using an older version of the pdf.../ auch, okay) +* We need a bit more 'what is the mvp about'/'what is the demo about' +* s/Hello world/Welcome +* First show that the apps are not deployed yet. Let people visit the urls themselves +* Can we make the split screen in demo wide, instead of long? (@kevinnote: yes but this was only normal sized monitor i have at the moment) +* Because of the elementary graphical interface, maybe a lower resolution of display will make the command text greater. +* When speak about the interface would be nice to have it visible on the screen. +* The argument for having ops done by professionals needs some polish => we are targeted at organisations (if you can run your own hardware, go!) +* Why skip slides? Will not skip. +* benefits providers: these are the benefits FOR providers +* Maybe don't switch between the presentation & demo. It's a bit distracting. (hans: I think that's a good thing, it breaks it up in different bits that makes it a bit more lively) +* I would suggest to add in the benefits and the other images also the Services offered to the Users to give the whole image of the prototype. +* The architecture diagram is an old one. The NixPanel is no more there. +* Nix is not an operating system ;..) + * roberth: One term keeps it simple and is good enough + * Nix is a system for building software more reproducibly +* The old NixPanel in the architecture is not mapped by the Django(Python) description. +* People can't write comments on Forgejo without an account, and there's no way to register +* Why not Develop & contribute Django (Python) in How to participate? +* Incantation -> Incarnation \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/meeting-notes/2025-03-31 standup notes.md b/meeting-notes/2025-03-31 standup notes.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..ac210d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-notes/2025-03-31 standup notes.md @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +​**Standup:** 2025-03-31 @09:30 +**Present:** Kiara, Koen, Ronny, Kevin, Gheorghe, Robert, Bjorn, Valentin, Nicolas +**Absent:** Hans (known), Eric (known) + +* Kiara + * Past day(s): continue on deploy button online + * Today: investigate SSH strategy for above and to deal with password-protected SSH keys +* Koen + * now have some experience with pixelfed + * want ​to upgrade the pixelfed cluster this afternoon and bring it live this evening so we can announce it tomorrow before the conference +* Kevin + * Worked on the panel friday, it shows now if the deploy was a succes and which services have been deployed + * today can work more on the panel but dont know what yet will discuss with kiara +* Bjorn + * Friday: Partnermeeting + * Today: demo & prep for Fediforum +* Valentin + * Wrote up design discussion on configuration data model versioning and format conversion + * Internal meetings +* Nicolas + * Last week disabling the machine + * Working on reproducing the NixOps4 upstream deployment test + * Got stuck with providing DNS within the sandbox + * Robert: there's some code I can give you for that +* Gheorghe + * No blockers + * Friday: Internal PM activities + * Today: Internal PM activities +* Ronny + * Good partnermeeting on Friday +* Robert + * Finishing up flake input override support (needed for ad hoc testing, generally useful) + * Next: stateful resources diff --git a/meeting-notes/2025-03-31-design-meeting.md b/meeting-notes/2025-03-31-design-meeting.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..de16f41 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-notes/2025-03-31-design-meeting.md @@ -0,0 +1,47 @@ +# Visual design meeting 2025-03-31 + +Present: {thijs,timon}@slik, {koen,kevin,kiara}@procolix + +- thijs: updated the designs as per the last meeting, supporting workspaces, dark/light themes, (implied) usage graphs, future fediverse services, updated theme +- koen: maybe categorize services using tags, e.g. fediverse, productivity, chat, video, microblogging +- thijs: so allow filtering by this too? +- koen: yes +- kiara: i like the new design +- koen: KDE's designs looks pretty, maybe also look at that +- timon: *clicks mastodon install, leading to detail page* +- koen: maybe allow batch selecting to install, as in current barebones technical implementation +- koen: please add icons for more applications +- timon: *showing preview page for mastodon* +- koen: again, minimize needed clicks, e.g. using basic vs advanced install rather than 'install' vs 'manage', then allow users to maybe tweak after +- thijs: then just do 'install' vs 'manage' as you probably don't want non-basic installs, so people can tweak after +- koen: you should be able to just use them when installed, afterwards change 'install' button to like 'go to your instance' +- koen: i like the detail page's log view, may end up long tho, so maybe add a 'show more' ellsion +- timon: fleshed out the settings view, as well as a users list +- thijs: the users list is more an example of a CRUD page, as you mentioned wanting to do SSO/LDAP before +- koen: again, distinguish stuff everyone should see vs advanced settings we by default should not bother busy non-technical users with +- thijs: you have not configured a domain yet, so cannot deploy mastodon yet - we should probably nag people on mandatory settings they have yet to set, also show progress bar for this +- koen: start simple, then show everything when desired +- thijs: different ways to not scare people off, not sure scaring people with advanced settings is the way, you could instead just show optional settings +- koen: still sounds scary +- thijs: otherwise may not notice what you can do with it +- thijs: you may not know a user's role up-front +- koen: start as basic user +- thijs: sysadmins will feel confused tho +- koen: maybe ask in the onboarding / sign-up what role you want +- thijs: onboarding, what else? +- thijs: we made sure to use only open-source fonts and icons +- koen: i see some details we will not use: e.g. pricing plans ending in 99, pricing plans worded to sell rather than offer transparency (wording shown in design: 'perfect' without elaboration as to why), pricing that needs explaining so people can understand why they should not feel ripped off +- kiara: isn't usage much more fungible? +- koen: we should show those from the panel, but there are different ways to approach this as per an operator's business model +- thijs: maybe hosts should get to choose how to approach this +- koen: agree, companies will have limited resources and may prefer to not make things too granular, tho in larger set-ups one may need to be able to better justify how pricing scales +- thijs: do we always want granular pricing? +- koen: by default yes, if you don't want that, it's open-source so you can fork if you like +- thijs: thanks - what else should we change for tomorrow? +- koen: maybe add graphs over time on disk space and number of applications deployed +- kiara: actually whether the background looks grey or white-ish for me depends on which monitor i view it on +- thijs: ok let's make it a bit lighter still +- koen: maybe also add user settings like advanced/novice, allow scrolling thru the app list, add an icon as per fediversity.eu (NGI - fediversity) +- koen: from pic 'many branches of the fediverse' use: lemmy, bookwyrm, funkwhale, friendica, castopod, writefreely, matrix, owncast, peertube, forgejo, passbolt +- kiara: this image already shows potential tags too +- thijs: we'll try and add the configurable color themes too