​Attendence:     - Koen     - Ronny     - Kevin     - Bogdan     - Robert     - Jime     - Laurens     - Nix operation 4:     the plan is to have a mirror on forgejo     [https://github.com/nixops4/nixops4](https://github.com/nixops4/nixops4)     - July 9 Kickoff Amsterdam, start at Science park, have dinner in the evening.     - Technical architecture document Option to use Kubernetes Con: a.   We want create some resistance of being able to run it in a 'non sovereign way'.  b. We don't need a packaging mechanism other than Nix. c. If you put Kubernetes in between 'you have to learn' Kubernetes as a 'being fluent' in the entire solution d. reproducable? declarative? e. no native IPv6 Pro: a. small to large systems b. run more services in case of (scheduling part of Kubernetes) c. makes it easy to run on hyperscalers d. makes it easy to move away from the hyperscalers Scheduling mechanism: nomad - does not do more than needed; no containers but raw Nix - no truly OSS fork (yet?) Note: [https://nluug.nl/evenementen/nluug/voorjaarsconferentie-2024/talks/alain-van-hoof-kubernetes-from-scratch-the-hard-way/](https://nluug.nl/evenementen/nluug/voorjaarsconferentie-2024/talks/alain-van-hoof-kubernetes-from-scratch-the-hard-way/)  Fediversity Tech Workshop 16:30h to 17:30h CEST 2 june 2024 NixOS NixOPS and Kubernetes?